Grab life by the horns 🤘
As far as I’m concerned, Tom “The Blacksheep Bandit” Torero coined that phrase. I heard it for the first time about 5 years ago, in disbelief really, while I was watching one of his YouTube videos as he showcased his travels across the world in the pursuit of adventure amongst friends all the while seducing beautiful women. His honesty for the lifestyle and sense of freedom was contagious. It only took me until now, years later, to have my own proper daygame trip. Thank you, Mr. Torero, for your inspiration and courage. Your impact is immeasurable. Your memory lives on. Missed, and not forgotten.
Had I not been influenced by this desire to “lick the lid of life”, I would never have even conceived of my recent trip to La Ciudad1. And this trip is really just the beginning. Before getting into specifics, let’s see how the stats compare with the majority of my daygame experience which takes place in New York City:
| NYC (2019-2022) | ||||
| Approaches | 692 | % | 1 in x | multiplier |
| Contacts | 66 | 10% | 10.5 | 10.5 |
| First Dates | 8 | 1% | 86.5 | 8.3 |
| Lays | 2 | 0% | 346.0 | 4 |
| La Ciudad (2022) | ||||
| Approaches | 41 | % | 1 in x | multiplier |
| Contacts | 22 | 54% | 1.9 | 1.9 |
| First Dates | 5 | 12% | 8.2 | 4.4 |
| Lays | 2 | 5% | 20.5 | 2.5 |
The impatient will immediately turn their attention to the approach:lay ratio, decreasing from 1/350 to 1/20. That is a monstrously large difference in results. Though all the numbers in between are just as important, particularly with a relatively low sample size, it’s quite clear that one city comes out as a winner. I’ll come back to the implications later on. For now, let’s dive in to the actual experience.
I took a three-week, working-remotely trip down to South America. Midwest and I booked tickets at the end of 2021, and with a bit of fortunate coincidence Swiss Roller had overlapping plans. We found an Airbnb in a nice neighborhood sandwiched between two areas with bars and restaurants, with a mall and university nearby, though it turned out most of the daygame sites were a 20-30 minute ride away to the malls. Regardless, our place had good dating venues within a 10 minute walk. We even convinced Swiss Roller to move into our neck of the woods!
After grabbing a late lunch at a Georgia-themed2 restaurant and settling in on our first day, we were ready to hit the streets malls! We discovered that day that Sundays are not the best for daygame. For the same reason there wasn’t highway traffic, there wasn’t daygame traffic. Sunday’s are spent at home. I did a whopping grand total of 2 sets that fateful day!
Despite the slight setback, we went right back to the streets linoleum corridors throughout the week. Every evening, and especially hard on the weekends. I averaged about 1 set per hour, roughly the same as in NYC, but the girls here are significantly more receptive. I opened in English and had to switch to Spanish for most of my sets. Unlike in Europe, when a girl says she doesn’t speak English in Latin America, she really doesn’t speak English. You cannot slow talk your way through these sets unless she’s particularly receptive to your look and will tolerate Google Translate. I surprised myself with my own language abilities when I was running sets. Something about having a chance at getting laid really elevated my attention and persistence to mastering the nuances of preterite vs imperfect.
The language struggle was more pronounced during the dates. Four of my five dates were dominated by Spanish, though not by my choice. I speak in broken Spanish and often times need to ask the waiter or bartender to repeat themselves. Girls laugh at with my struggles and go out of their way to help me learn. To level things out, I will often tease them for being too shy to speak in English, or go the other way and tell them how sexy their Latin accent is to my gringo ears. If it goes well, I sometimes intentionally mess up my Spanish to refer to not-so-innocent topics. When this material hits, it hits very well. I’m doing my best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage.
I got one lay that was 100% in Spanish. I would not have gotten this otherwise. When I approached her on a Thursday, she had a distracted look with poor eye contact and pleasant, but not so committed, responses. I took the number thinking it was weak, but to my surprise she was texting later that night. I invited her out for the following Saturday to which she agreed but “didn’t know how to get herself to the bar”. I ordered an Uber to her place and we met at a bar near the Airbnb. I can barely remember what we talked about at the bar–it was all attraction material where I teased her and escalated since she didn’t respond much to anything else:
Me: That plate looks good. Do you cook that?
Her: No, I don’t cook much.
Me: I see, you don’t cook, just eat.
Her: Jajajajajaja! Eso!
Throughout all this, I’m ramping up the escalation and before we finish up the first drink I pull her in for a little kiss. A short while later I run into Midwest on the way to the bathroom (he had a date at the same bar, and we had only a single set of keys; our logistics had to be on point to make things happen) and tell him “she’s receptive to my teasing and escalation and I’m all out of material so I’m gonna bounce and see what happens.” And that’s what I did. He saw me exiting with the perhaps the goofiest smile on my face as I was more or less expecting the lay with this 18 yo on our first date that I conducted purely in Spanish. It was a proud moment for me, as it was also the moment that I realized I had finally understood what Krauser meant by the “birdsong” in his books; I tuned my Game for this particular girl among her wants and desires, not my own personal strengths which is generally building a connection through deeper conversation. When we got back to mine we had a bit of wine, she showed me something on Netflix then I bit her neck. +1 and done. On my way out the door to drop her off in an Uber, I hear Spanish television on in Midwest’s room–by the time I got back to the apartment, I hear the television louder but with the distinct sound of a woman’s moaning. Well done, Midwest!3 I was to later learn that when he first brought her home, they arrived to the moans of my girl. So, karma!
I saw this girl again after discovering that she left her watch in my shower. I called her over a few days later to return it and wind her clock4. It was a nice second run, but there was nothing to her besides the lay. Both times she asked if she could stay over, then shed tears for a few moments after I gently said no. This felt a bit off since we exchanged very little comfort between us, so there was no reason to feel a sense of connection or loss.
My other lay came off my stupendous English skillZ. I opened a girl who spoke English on my second set of the trip, which went well enough that she qualified herself a bit. Then she flaked on a couple of dates but left just enough in her texts for me to continue the pursuit. Ten days layer we had a beer and nachos on our first date, where I later walked her to the front door of my building and called her an Uber. Same story on the second date, but this time we made it through my building door, through our apartment door, through my bedroom door and…well you get the idea.
Interesting thing about this 23 yo girl, is that after the third time I had her over my place, I felt our connection and attraction for each other was strong enough to continue the relationship. At some point, she mentioned the age I gave her, which is about half a decade off from the truth. Partly to maintain honesty, partly to ease the burden of carrying the disinformation, and partly to experiment, I decided to tell her the truth. I should first mention that I decided upon the lower age I gave her by calibrating to the following conversation:
Her: So how old are you?
Me: How old would you guess? I’ll give you a hint, I’m older than I look.
Her: 27
Well, 27 I am not, but looking 25 at my age ain’t a bad place to be!
Anyway, I told her my actual age after our second round on our third night in my bed. Her initial reaction was shock, “why didn’t you tell me”? I answered insouciantly5, “I could tell when you first asked me that you would have dismissed me quickly if I did, then we wouldn’t have gotten to know each other.” Over the next 30 minutes the topic simmered in her head while we talked about other things. She said things like “it’s a large age gap, we’re in different worlds. You’re in a more stable financial situation, you have more experience. We’re from different generations.” This reluctance eventually turned into “you know, I never felt your age or experience changed anything about our time together.” Biology and emotions beat societal programming within 30 minutes. It’s now a week since I’ve left La Ciudad and we’re still texting. I declare this a Unanimous Decision in favor of charisma. Nice girl. We’re still in contact and I expect to see her again when I return.
This fortunate lady also had the pleasure of meeting one of Midwest’s girls. As I was escorting her out of our apartment one evening, Midwest was just escorting one of his girls in. It was quite the accomplishment to have created a revolving door of women within 3 weeks, all the while maintaining our day jobs. I can’t help but wonder what our security guard, who unlocked the door for each passing through the building, thought about these two gringos bringing in smiling young women in the evenings only to drop them off in an Uber a couple of hours later with an even bigger smile under their disheveled hair!
And yet there’s more to be done. On my return trip, I hope to close out some unfinished business with a lead whom I took out on two dates. I plan to run Krauser’s long-game model with this one and see where it goes. She doesn’t text as much, but when she does it usually carries excitement with it. We made out a little on both dates, so I see value in pursuing though I put my chances below 50%.
Something else I should mention here: both my lays and this long lead are all solid 7’s in my book. They are slim with a bit darker skin and perky sets of boobzies and buttsies. And they have this deliciously sexy latin accent. Qué chévere! These girls have sapped me of my energy and desire to chase after girls in the US–the juice ain’t worth the squeeze.
There are many other memorable experiences I had on this trip and it has fully motivated me to pursue life outside of NYC, and really outside of the US. The daygame and cost arbitrage are too great to ignore. I have to work more than 10x as hard in NYC for the same action, where a date with 2 beers each will run me more than $50. As amazing as this city is, that lifestyle just does not appeal to me. I talk to 10 girls in NYC and 1 or 2 give me a conversation passed the stack; in La Ciudad this would be 6 or 7 conversations.
I chatted a bit with an old wing recently, Runner, who said something along the lines of “I’d rather daygame in a European war zone then NYC.” I agree. Give me guerilla warfare with feminine girls over high-society with masculanized women. In fact, another thing I noticed on my dates in La Ciudad is that I was able to be my natural self. That isn’t to say I wasn’t using the social skill set that is game or seduction, but just that I didn’t have to falsely be colder to my dates, or crush their frame or lead with evasive maneuvers because she brings up a bad date topic like the gender wage gap (doesn’t exist), climate change (ain’t so bad, and we should turn on nuclear) or unequal outcomes (asymmetry is a fact of life and it cuts both ways).
No, these girls were fun and they appreciate a man flirting with them. Escalation was so natural that it felt too easy. It was expected. I noted a handful of other observations as well:
- I get more IOIs, and in general more eye contact when passing by people.
- Sets usually need more time to warm up, with them being a few minutes longer than my NYC sets. The pattern I noticed was that many sets will open with a smile, but remain somewhat hesitant. It takes 2-3 minutes to get passed that, then there’s a slow, but steady progression which includes escalation. I did a lot of hand holding with strong eye contact in my sets.
- Girls cook down there. Regularly.
- Young adults are super busy between work and studies. It’s normal to work full-time hours while having university classes starting as early as 6am or finishing at 8p. Some of their classes are held on Saturdays.
Ultimately, this trip was a huge relief off my shoulders. Look back at the all the sets I ran in NYC with minimal success. It’s felt like I’ve been trying to bleed a rock for last two and a half, and even though I felt massive gains in my game and social skills, my efforts bore no fruit. I lost a lot of motivation in the last year and significantly reduced my work rate. This trip revitalized me by giving me proof that I have developed the toolkit and SMV to pull the kind of girls I want. And I’m only getting better.
Throughout all the havoc of managing leads, I had a lot of chats with Midwest about my sets, logistics, texting and reading signals on dates. It was great bouncing ideas back and forth with him, especially as we had similar, but different, experiences. I recently listened to my daygame audio from the trip and found many additional opportunities for improvement–in my Game of course, and also in my Spanish.
I can’t wait to go back. I’ll be spending the rest of 2022 getting my affairs in order for more efficient, frequent travel.
Check out this review by Daily Sets if you enjoyed my post. He’s a fellow stranger that digs the Latin passion.
Breeze.
Hey, man. Great trip. Great stories. I am stoked for you.
>> The impatient will immediately turn their attention to the approach:lay ratio, decreasing from 1/350 to 1/20
I will join the impatient and say I have never been 1:20. I am in a blissful 1:50 now, and I have been here before, but that feels really good (and almost “easy”) compared to my 1:120, 1:100 averages across my “career.”
You’re doing something right. We’ll done.
There is an economic factor to Columbia, that is in the story somewhere (not your story, but in general). The guys that love Brazil (and there are many) see a similar environment: Economic differences, and ALSO more traditional and feminine girls. I have never gamed anyplace outside of “well off cities.” Your like to Daily Sets post talks about it immediately.
I say all this because you are pointing to the difference in your results. And I am curious what to attribute them too.
Q: How much credit do you give your own Game?
Was is just “Columbia is easier?” Or C-girls are more feminine and open? Nothing to do with your game? You suck… anyone could do it… it’s just pooooosy paradise?
I always want to argue that Game is the same everywhere. I still believe that. Biology trumps geography every time. (But economics adds a layer to things.) I think sexuality is personal, not “cultural.” Japan has a tight, well defined culture, I see dramatic differences in the girls’ sexualities within this culture.
I wrote something about Jaunts in my last post and I said travel often means YOU bring an excitement and an energy you don’t bring at home. That is real (and part of the results some guys get on jaunts). More energy, in general, could give you a boost in results. More “good positive” energy could really give you a boost.
I don’t think it’s fair to say you were 2:600 in NYC and 2:40 in Columbia, because you had experience and maturity in Columbia you didn’t have for most of those NYC sets. That is not apples to apples.
But this is easy to test (and I don’t care so much about exact numbers): Will you do better (compared to previous NYC time), now, in NYC, after all the great experiences in Columbia? I think you might.
If you felt an obvious boost now in our Game back in NYC, based on more experience, more “times across the river,” I think that would be normal. I bet you’ve grown as a player, and if you put some effort into NYC, you’d see much better results.
You cite all these “Western, non fem” things in the NYC girls. I have picked up and dated in NYC, and I just didn’t date those kinds of girls. I don’t buy that explanation about NYC. NYC is full of girls from all over, at all stages of acclimation to NYC… many NYC girls would be more like their home town than NYC. NYC is Gameable.
Now that you have more exp, and maybe more swagger… will you spot (identify), and approach, more fem girls? Leading to more hot interactions? And better stats? Are you a more exp’d player now, with better skills, with more self-trust, with a better expression of real masculinity, with more discernment in what he chooses in the girls?
I am going to assume some of what I am suggesting is true. And I think this is a much more productive way to see Game than “it’s better in Japan” or whatever (even if it is, somewhat, better in Japan).
I moved to a foreign city, so I get it. And I know everyone is eager to dis the US entirely, and aim for pooosy paradise. But I still don’t buy it… there is cope in thinking that way, even if some (and certainly not all) of what we say about the West is true. It’s not healthy to make it about the externals.
You are growing. You are not the same guy you were for those first ~300 approaches in the US. Columbia probably opened your eyes to a lot of things. All of which changes your INTERNALS.
Guys think it is easy here in Japan, but I see “white gods” here, that are goofy bastards, their skin color isn’t helping them. And I have had the same shockingly pale white skin for all my time in Japan, but my results keep getting better (even as I am now very old… nearly 50).
The best guys are good because THEY ARE SPECIAL (and they become more special over time, as their Game grows)… not because “the girls are easy.” The girls are easy(er) because they are (more) solid. And as they get more solid, the girls continue to get easier.
I am very curious to see if you could hold all this momentum, game hard, and see what you could produce from your current position in the SMP, now, in NYC. You’ve grown up, your INTERNALS are changing, in ways that might blow thru some imperfections in the externals…
I wonder what you think of all that.
Viva Breeze. You sound fantastic. Congratulations.
Good to hear from you, Nash.
There’s a lot to unpack in that lay ratio, starting with the fact that I don’t know the long-term average. I also think it’s worth thinking about work rate in terms of time in addition to number of approaches. In my case, 1 approach/hour seems fairly consistent across 3 cities (and 3 continents for that matter). But when I first got to NYC, almost 3 years ago now, I did 4-5x that. I believe that plays an important role in the stats we see here.
I think often about history, economics and culture, and their effect on our collective lifestyles, desires and ultimately our sense of happiness. There are so many facets that come into play, that intermingle with each other so it’s a challenge to make any definitive generalizations that can explain the difference in my results between these two cities. What I can tell you is this; had I never practiced daygame before heading to South America, I would have *not* achieved the results I did. Maybe I would have had a friendly date or two under the guise of practicing Spanish, but I certainly would not have had the ability to lead that interaction anywhere else.
I’ve gone out twice in NYC this past week, and I just don’t have the desire to approach. Though I am seeing an uptick in the volume of sets. We’ll see how things evolve here, but for now I’m focused on setting up a lifestyle for travel.
Glad to hear things are working out well in Japan. I see that you’ve been busy spinning up a couple of Girl Tornados out there.
By the way, if you haven’t already, I think you’d be interested in this book called “The Female Brain” which includes sections on nature vs nurture differences between men and women.
> At some point, she mentioned the age I gave her, which is about half a decade off from the truth
> “I could tell when you first asked me that you would have dismissed me quickly if I did, then we wouldn’t have gotten to know each other.”
And here… ahhh.
I am on a role of being really disappointed with the BS in our community. I don’t like it. I know lots of guys give girls a lower age. Guys I respect (in other ways) do it (particularly online… which just adds to the endless BS/fakery of online… what a cesspool).
You do not need to lie. Don’t ever fake anything. Never. It is a big confession of weakness every time. Even if she never finds out, YOU will know.
I closed a 19yo last week. She screened me about my age early. I stepped past it (“I am much older than you”) but never lied. She insisted. And… she is all in. No BS needed.
I am dating a 19yo, a 24yo, a 24yo. I closed a 21yo in Jan. Another 23yo in Dec. I am almost 50. I look younger… but not that much younger.
Girls don’t fuck you because you’re “the right age.” They fuck you because you are solid.
It is really TERRIBLE for our inner game that we would ever pretend or fake anything, as we work for some poooosy. It’s terrible inner game. It is also terrible for pickup/Game that we do this… we are all the things the haters say we are, when we lie for pooooosy.
Guys will do what they will… and will mostly erode their own game anytime they are anything other than solid in who and what they are. It’s a mistake. And it’s ugly. Even other guys will see you, and judge you for it. It makes a lot of what we’re doing uglier when we lie. The girls have every reason to be MORE DISTRUSTFUL of men when we add lies to their experience… we create baggage when we lie. It’s all so unnecessary and small.
YMMV.
Keep your chin up. You do not have to lie, you do not have to compromise yourself, not in any way, to get what you want in life. You do not. It’s a horrible, low self esteem, limiting belief to think the lies and faking are necessary (or even helpful).
And, if you NEVER lie, if you NEVER compromise yourself… that is quite a claim for inner game. It’s quite a foundation. Admirable. You are building a reputation… A REPUTATION WITH YOURSELF.
Chin up. Be proud of what you are… and all the glory of “what you are” can be.
Ultimately, I 100% that age has nothing to do with the seduction. At least deep down in our biology. I believe girls are hard-wired to be attracted to guys their age and men older then them. I also believe that societal norms apply a pressure to close the age gap (let’s avoid the red-pill reasoning for now; I’m sure you’re already aware of the arguments). And of course, there will be variety amongst women. Some will only date guys their age, some don’t care, and some have a preference for older guys.
Something I haven’t written about here, but perhaps I will in a different blog post, is how much I’m calibrating these days. I read the situation and respond accordingly. If the conversation is light and fluffy, I’ll give a fun/dismissive response. If it’s heavy, then I’ll give a real response. It’s what I interpret as “singing her birdsong”.
I’ll continue experimenting with this topic.
Good stuff, Breeze. I enjoyed this post. Sounds like a good time. I traveled quite a bit to places like this before I was game aware. Because of that, results were hit or miss. It would be fun to see what I could do now. I’m heading up to NYC soon. I’ll put my time in there, but end goal is definitely LatAm or Japan. In the meantime, I’ll enjoy the LatAm and Japanese chicks in NYC. New chicks are coming to the city every day. Just catch them before they get indoctrinated lol
NYC is one of the best cities in the world. It’s got everything you want in terms of food, music and experiences. There’s a lot to like about it–but the girls and the cost just don’t hit the mark for me. Your experience may be different, and regardless, you will definitely enjoy the energy of the city. Send me a DM when you arrive and we can go out for a session.
Breeze, loved this post. Congrats on the inner game steps you’ve made. I know that feeling as I got it in Ukraine last fall. Before then I was really stressed about my ability to run game but the wonderful girls in Kiev let me know I’ve already got it. Few thing better than knowing there are plenty of better options out there for the taking.
Appreciate the comments.
Just read your post here https://crazycockpua.com/2021/10/03/why-am-i-here-you-ask/. “Get the fuck away from me”…ah what a breath of fresh air! Within my last few sets in the US I was told “why would you ever say that?” and a wing was told “please don’t talk to me”. I already miss Latin America. Eastern Europe is on my list.
Great post. Solid daygamer. I think if your an outsider looking into a foreign culture. Then the yocals don’t expect you to know their customs. That gives the girl anonymity with a foreigner. Hence more shiny. Lay ratios go up.
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